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[原创]Pelikan对派克51的回答 -- P 1
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作者:
万宝鹈鹕鸟
时间:
2006-8-13 19:22
标题:
[原创]Pelikan对派克51的回答 -- P 1
<p>派克51自1941年问世起,销售业绩斐然,在当时的制笔业界掀起一股流线型和小包头金笔的风潮。一些厂家直接1:1的仿冒,而另外一些厂家则在吸取派克51优点的基础上,结合自己的长处,生产出了风格独特的钢笔。在这类钢笔中,Pelikan的P 1系列做得相当出色。</p><p>
1系列生产周期是1958至1963年,笔帽有镀金和镀银两种,笔身颜色有黑色,浅灰,墨绿和酒红四种。派克51的造型和颜色无疑要丰富许多。P 1比51稍微纤细点,长度差不多,重量也稍轻。</p><p>[attach]16393[/attach]</p><p>
1坚持了Pelikan或德系高档钢笔的特色:活塞上水和旋转笔帽,这点和51有很大的不同。P 1的视窗也很别致,是放在笔身中央的一排四个绿色小圆窗。</p><p>[attach]16394[/attach]</p><p><br/>
1的笔尖没有完全和51那样,而是稍微露出点,笔尖的套管下端随生产时间的不同有圆形和棱形的区分。虽然露出的部分看不到黄金的成色标记,P 1的所有笔尖全是14K,它的内藏式导墨管"
elikan-Thermal-Regulator"有三项专利,专利方明者也就是活塞上墨的发明者Theodor Kovacs先生。</p><p>[attach]16395[/attach]</p><p>[attach]16396[/attach]</p><p>由于P 1的笔尖稍微露出点,而且当时的Pelikan又偏爱生产弹性笔尖,所以P 1比普通的小包头钢笔写起字来要有弹性得多。Pelikan做笔尖又爱种类齐全,所以包括OF,OB等稀有笔尖也生产,这是很多品牌的小包头笔尖不能相比的地方。P 1用料相当讲究,做得很皮实,50年过去,很多笔都还成色很好。那支银帽的F尖的是我的日常笔之一。</p><p>[attach]16397[/attach]</p><p>一些细节</p><p>[attach]16398[/attach]</p><p>[attach]16399[/attach]</p><p>
1的生产周期比较短,也不是当时Pelikan的主流系列,且售价也比当时主流的400系列高,所以存世不多,如果笔友能有幸遇到一支,千万不要犹豫,写过P 1之后,会觉得他的书写性能和派克51迥然不同,可能有些笔友会从此改弦更张了。[em05][em05][em05]</p><p></p>
作者:
瀑布
时间:
2006-8-13 20:02
<p>好有特色..第一次看到老万的字
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作者:
applegump
时间:
2006-8-13 20:13
此笔不拔出笔帽十分好看,简直有搞一只的冲动,拔开笔帽,一盆冷水啊,那个笔头像,像,像,总之很不雅啦~~~~~~~
作者:
盐汽水
时间:
2006-8-13 20:45
<p>那只51包金帽倒是好款式,波浪间竖条纹,仅次于K金帽,用在单珠蓝杆上可惜了。你那只上面有供刻字的长方形吗?我的钢笔帽款没有长方形,铅笔帽却有供刻字的长方形。</p><p>第一支51是单珠真空nassau green吗?</p>
作者:
72-625
时间:
2006-8-13 22:06
<p>看上去好象没51厚重,比100是强多了.书写感受和M400差不多吗? 现在的价格怎么样? </p>
作者:
金刚杨
时间:
2006-8-14 00:18
老万,可否介绍一下"鸟"的L5?
作者:
万宝鹈鹕鸟
时间:
2006-8-14 04:25
<p><span class="def">
1价格不好说,在笔展上的价格肯定超过古董400和普通派克51单珠,但如果你在eBay上打伏击,有可能会相对便宜点买到,因为很多日本人还不知道这款,只是<span class="def">
1数量不多,在eBay上要打较长时间的伏击才能遇到一支</span>。</span></p><p><span class="def">我的51不是<span class="def">Nassau Green,而是</span>Blue Cedar ,波浪纹笔帽上也没有刻字栏。</span></p><p><span class="def">L5是Pelikan请德国科隆的一个工业设计小组专门设计的,造型得过不少工业设计奖,上水方式相当特殊,但仁者见仁,智者见智,有优点也有缺点,不过这一系列历经10几年,没有被市场淘汰,还在继续生产,说明还是有一定销售潜力的。</span></p><p><span class="def"></span></p>
作者:
72-625
时间:
2006-8-14 11:38
<p>谢谢万回答.</p>
作者:
francise
时间:
2006-8-14 18:59
灰蓝色的好看一些
作者:
後羿
时间:
2006-8-15 13:26
<p>这笔比较有特色啊。感觉和LAMY2000的那种半包的头有点亲戚关系的。按时间看,应该是LAMY学它.</p>
作者:
duofoldest
时间:
2006-8-20 17:24
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">非也</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">曾看过某些日本人评</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">p1</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">称其"书写性能"</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">No.1,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">比</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">top line</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">100,400,….</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">还高</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">或许夸大些</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">但无可否认与</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">parker 51</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">同属性价比高的好笔</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">或许因</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">现代人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">喜欢</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">open nib</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt;"><p></p></span></font></p><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所以日本人没有</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">大量收购</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">”</span>
作者:
PKU-Eric
时间:
2007-11-18 19:23
<p>LZ 我遇到了一支P30 14K 包金帽 笔尖有点像PARKER 45吧 请教一下P30的手感如何啊,是否是软尖啊。。。</p><p></p>
作者:
万宝鹈鹕鸟
时间:
2007-11-19 21:38
<p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">比</span><font face="Times New Roman">
arker 45</font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">要软。</span><font face="Times New Roman">60</font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,</span><font face="Times New Roman">70</font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">年代的</span><font face="Times New Roman">
elikan</font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">看上去比较丑,但极其耐用和好用。</span><font face="Times New Roman">
30</font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">的塑料很皮实,包金帽款戴帽写配重也很好。</span><p></p></p>
作者:
鹦鹉螺
时间:
2007-11-19 22:36
是鸟嘴笔夹。
作者:
PKU-Eric
时间:
2007-11-19 22:53
<p>谢谢LZ的讲解。</p><p>我的这支P30 包金 14K的 花400买的 贵吗?</p><p></p>
作者:
万宝鹈鹕鸟
时间:
2007-11-20 01:16
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial;">小亏一点,差不多应该是</span><font face="Arial">394,76</font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial;">元,你多花了</span><font face="Arial">5,24</font><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial;">元。</span></p>
作者:
心影相随
时间:
2007-11-21 06:00
第一次看到鸟的暗尖笔,好喜欢
作者:
PKU-Eric
时间:
2007-11-21 13:56
P 30的价格。。这个精确啊。。哦 谢谢LZ了
作者:
万宝鹈鹕鸟
时间:
2007-11-21 16:10
<p>嘿嘿,开个玩笑。不过要问价格,只给出一个参数:P30,你觉得够了吗?至少要说明品相,颜色(P30大部分都是黑色,如果是蓝色或红色就可能贵点),是否活塞上墨(P30有两种上墨方式)等等。含金量高,精确的问题一般很容易得到答案。</p><p>400元买支名牌金笔,纵然吃亏了,又能吃多少亏?</p>
作者:
sogpms
时间:
2008-2-23 10:24
第一次看到鸟的暗尖笔,好喜欢
作者:
szd
时间:
2008-2-25 08:54
哪里能跟派克51相比!
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